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Thank you for standing by. My name is Jeannie, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Murphy USA Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session.

Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Christian Pikel. Please go ahead.

Yes. Good morning, everybody. Thanks, Jeannie, and thanks, everyone, for joining us today. With me are Andrew Clyde, Chief Executive Officer Mindy West, Chief Operating Officer Gallagher Jeff, Chief Financial Officer and Donnie Smith, Chief Accounting Officer. After some opening comments from Andrew, Gallagher will provide an overview of the financial results and performance against our 2025 guidance metrics.

And then following some closing comments from Andrew, we'll open up the call to Q and A. Please keep in mind that some of the comments made during this call, including the Q and A portion, will be considered forward looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. As such, no assurances can be given that these events will occur or that the projections will be attained. A variety of factors exist that may cause actual results to differ. For further discussion of risk factors, please see the latest Murphy USA forms 10 ks, 10 Q, eight ks and other recent SEC filings.

Murphy USA takes no duty to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements. During today's call, we may also provide certain performance measures that do not conform to Generally Accepted Accounting Principles or GAAP. We have provided schedules to reconcile these non GAAP measures with the reported results on a GAAP basis as part of our earnings press release, which can be found on the Investors section of our website. And with that, I'll turn it over to Andrew.

Thank you, Christian, and good morning, everyone. Second quarter results largely reflect the trends previously disclosed in our operations update covering second quarter's performance through May. Fuel prices continue to be range bound despite remarkable geopolitical events, and we remain in a lower price less volatile environment. Together with lighter cigarette promotional activity and lower lottery jackpots, this translated to modest pressure on customer traffic and you can see that in Q2 same store fuel volumes were down 3.2% ahead of OPUS volume levels reported that noted weakness in demand. July volumes have rebounded and are currently running at 100% of prior year levels with a couple of reporting days left in the month.

While these trends reflect an environment on the low side of what we would call normal, there are definitely bright spots that may get obscured in the current environment, which should result in significant performance uplift when conditions normalize. Gallagher will review the 2025 outlook shortly, but it's worth emphasizing a few things that we are excited about. First, while cigarette volumes remain pressured, non combustible nicotine categories are growing at a rate that fully offsets the decline in cigarette margins, which is remarkable as this category represents only 30% of total nicotine margin contribution. With an uptick in July promotional activity on cigarettes around the July 4, we believe a more robust second half cadence will be supportive to stronger nicotine category growth. Moreover, we view FDA Commissioner Doctor.

Mark Hay's forceful comments about illicit vapor and synthetic kratom crackdowns earlier this week as very positive. Second, unlike many of the public QSRs reporting sales declines, average per store month food and beverage sales at QuickChek have been positive for the third straight quarter underscoring our value offer and ability to drive traffic to our stores. Investing in traffic and transactions versus taking excessive price increases in the current environment will pay dividends later when food costs subside resulting in both sales and margin growth going forward. Third, supporting sales and contribution on both brands are the digital initiatives that are creating value for our customers. For MDR, we saw a 31% increase in new loyalty enrollments for the quarter and an 11% increase in merchandise transactions.

In fact, if you remove cigarettes and lottery from the mix, Murphy only merchandise contribution increased by 8.9% for the quarter led by strength in candy and packaged beverages. Both categories where we are seeing price increases across the industry, yet our ability to deliver value to the customer and CPG firms is yielding positive results. At QuickChek, the revamped loyalty program has seen mobile orders double since the relaunch and 35% of in store pickup items included additional sales inside the store averaging $7 per transaction. We've also seen a meaningful shift in the full time to part time labor mix at QC as part of our demand forecasting digital initiative. Fourth, a common theme across today's call will be that when merchandise contribution is pressured, which it inevitably will be from time to time, we are able to maintain store profitability from operating cost improvements, a hallmark of our corporate D and A since our 2013 spin.

The current quarter is no exception where we saw improvements in overtime, labor rates, loss prevention and maintenance. These improvements are complemented by home office efficiencies that are driving our G and A lower. Fifth, in a relatively more challenging environment where we can sustain store profitability, retail fuel margins are proving even more resilient than we would have thought. We saw retail margins up 50 basis points in 2024. And year to date we are seeing an 80 basis point improvement along with an additional 13 basis points from lower credit card fees.

This reinforces our view that industry headwinds are translating to higher retail margins over time because the marginal retailer is unable to sustain their profitability without taking up price on fuel. Furthermore, our street pricing on average in Q2 was a penny more aggressive supporting weaker demand, which further reinforces our view that in a more normal price and volatility environment, we would likely see further bottom line margin improvement. And last, but certainly not least, we are really excited and encouraged by the quality of our new store pipeline and construction underway, which is poised to deliver 50 stores over the next twelve months. While we have not met our commitments and expectations on the timing of store months, individual store performance for all the most recent build classes are performing well above pro form a. Gallagher will provide some more details around that program.

So let me turn it over to him to provide some updates on our 2025 guidance before returning to discuss our longer term potential.

Thanks for the handoff, Andrew. Building on your comments, I'm going to discuss our progress against our 2025 guided metrics. Starting with fuel volumes. First half volumes were down 3% on an average per store month basis, which after adjusting for temporal issues we referenced in the first quarter call translates to down 2% on a normalized basis. Given first half performance is tracking slightly lower than our expectations, our second half outlook incorporates a market neutral view characterized by continued low volatility and does not account for anything exceptional that may occur, such as supply shock followed by dramatically falling prices.

As such, our outlook for the second half suggests volumes could fall slightly below the low end of our annual guided range of 240,000 to 245,000 average per store month. As Andrew mentioned, July fuel volumes are running at 100% of prior year. For merchandising contribution margin, we're seeing a similar impact from a slow first quarter. With headwinds from two of our largest categories in the first half, cigarettes and lottery, we also expect to be within but toward the low end of our guided range of $855,000,000 to $875,000,000 It's important to remember on an average per store month basis, Q2 merchandising contribution at Murphy USA branded stores are up 8.9% excluding the headwinds from cigarettes and lottery. This speaks to the underlying resilience we see in the Murphy customers and broader center store categories.

In this demand environment, we are actively managing our cost and driving savings across both store operating expenses and home office cost. Our initiatives to improve store level operations are showing results, and we expect store operating expenses to be at or below the low end of the guided range of 36,500 to $37,000 per store month. Therefore, from a store profitability perspective, due to the sustainable and structural improvements we are making to the business, on a net profit basis, we are seeing higher operating contribution dollars per store, not lower. This stronger coverage ratio reinforces the competitiveness of our Murphy business model and increased our ability to generate free cash flow. In addition to our operating expenses, we've also made progress optimizing our home office spend, which has resulted in total corporate SG and A also trending below the low end of our guided range of $245,000,000 to $255,000,000 The effective tax rate in the first half was 22% due to a combination of excess tax benefits related to equity compensation and recognized benefits from federal energy tax credits reflected in first quarter results.

We expect second half all in tax rates to be within the guided range of 24% to 26%, resulting in a full year tax rate at or slightly below the low end of guidance. I'll close the 2025 guidance update with two related topics, new store growth and our capital expenditures. We put 14 new stores into service in the first half, along with 10 raze and rebuild stores, followed by six more raze and rebuilds opened in July. I'm pleased to report that new store construction activity will remain robust through the end of this year, with the pipeline in extremely solid shape to deliver accelerated store growth this year and beyond. 40 new stores and eight raze and rebuilds are currently under construction.

We're positioned to start construction on an additional 10 new stores over the next forty five days. Given any unanticipated supply chain shocks or jurisdictional delays, that means we expect to open around 40 new stores in 2025, up from the 32 stores opened in 2024. More importantly, we have over 45 NTIs in construction in Q3, resulting in a robust end of year delivery and a great start to 2026, where we do expect 15 to 20 additional new store openings in the 2026. Accordingly, our 2025 capital plan remains largely intact, and we expect to remain within the guided range of $450,000,000 to $500,000,000 Looking past 2025, our new store pipeline continues to grow and accelerate with 90 stores already in design or permitting and over 50 more in contract negotiations. We believe these new numbers and momentum reflect our newly refined store development capabilities and will allow us to increase our NTI delivery capacity in 2026 and beyond.

I will close with a brief comment on share repurchase. In the second quarter, as noted in our release, we repurchased 471,000 shares, bringing our year to date repurchases to nearly 900,000 shares. Share repurchase remains the highest and best use of our free cash flow, and we expect to remain active repurchase of our shares going forward. We will continue to take advantage of the currently misaligned views between investors and management with respect to our ability to drive future value creation for Murphy USA shareholders. And now, I'll turn it back over to Andrew for closing comments.

Thanks, Gallagher. That's great perspective on our 2025 outlook. Referencing our longer term value creation algorithm, and in particular Slide 10 of our most recent investor deck, we remain bullish on our ability to create value for long term investors. We remain well positioned to continue to sustain and improve our near zero fuel breakeven margin with a focus on overall store profitability, addressing merchandise headwinds with operational and overhead efficiencies and growing categories with our vendor partners with the right mix of pricing, promotion and digital activities. With advantaged nonfuel profitability per store, we expect to grow EBITDA on a CPG basis as we keep more of the increases we are experiencing in retail fuel margins.

And as we bring on more new stores that enhance returns and higher volumes per store, growth in total volume provides the free cash flow to deliver our fifty-fifty capital allocation strategy that has proven to be a winning formula with shareholders. We also believe EPS will be further enhanced through our tax optimizing strategies. When I think about some of the conversations with investors over the past few months, these discussions remain rooted in the long term potential of our business, particularly in connection with the $1,300,000,000 EBITDA potential we set for 2028, which we have included in our investor presentations beginning in 2023. This figure was a single point target that represented in our view the potential of our business based on a set of factors in a normal environment, some of which are within our control and some are outside of our control. Since then, our progress against some of these metrics have been slower than anticipated as we have shared with you during prior earnings call and investor conferences, while some other metrics have been realized ahead of our expectations.

So let's take stock and review our progress against this target. It was predicated on four distinct drivers: first, NTI growth approximating 50 new stores annually starting in twenty twenty four two, continued upward pressure on equilibrium retail margins approximating 30 to 40 basis points annually three, sustaining the higher rate of merchandise contribution growth we experienced in 2022 and 2023, which was about 7% annually and last, number four, continued operational improvements to make our business more competitive, which is the legacy of our history as a public company. Together in a normal environment, these resulted in a five year view of a little over $1,250,000,000 in EBITDA such that another zero of fuel margin would yield the $1,300,000,000 of potential EBITDA we referenced. Starting with nonfuel performance on existing stores, we are about 20,000,000 behind our expectations for 2028. The largest driver is a quick check where older non fuel stores have been impacted the most from the QSR value wars, while food and beverage margins have been hampered by cost inflation and overall weakness in the Northeast traffic has been persistent impacting center of store performance.

As we look beyond 2028, these older non fuel stores are coming off lease and we would expect food margins to stabilize as we continue to drive traffic on our high volume fuel stores. Murphy branded merchandise contribution was also lower reflecting the compounding of delays in some of the center of store initiatives last year and cigarette weakness this year. Offsetting a lower base for compounding on the top line and contribution margin growth is better than expected operating costs and SG and A costs both in terms of what we have realized to date and what we are highly confident ongoing initiatives will deliver, which will also then deliver compounded benefits from a lower base. Moving to new stores, we are also about $20,000,000 behind our expectations for 2028 due to fewer store months. While the fewer store months creates a drag on fuel volume and merchandise sales, it is offset by lower operating cost and rent, but more importantly is the offset from new stores that are performing better than our plan.

Turning to fuel at existing stores, the shortfall we have seen in same store volumes is offset by higher fuel margins and lower payment fees in our forecast. We expected and continue to expect PS and W's net of RINs to normalize between $0.02 5 and $03 per gallon with a more balanced supply demand outlook. Based on current market and competitive dynamics, we would expect retail margins to improve about $0.05 per gallon per year slightly above what we had in our original plan. These updated assumptions generate EBITDA potential of around $1,200,000,000 in 2028. We also expected and continue to expect to see more normalized fuel prices and volatility levels such that we can claw back an extra $01 per gallon where we have been more aggressive to sustain volume in a much lower price environment over the last several quarters.

That penny would get you back to the original $1,250,000,000 plan for 2028. And if the environment yielded an additional penny above and beyond that, we would realize close to the original $1,300,000,000 figure. No matter what 2028 EBITDA ultimately turns out to be, in a normalized environment where merchandise contribution offsets OpEx growth and volume pressures are abated at higher fuel prices, we expect incremental benefits on retail margins in addition to the 40,000,000 to $50,000,000 of EBITDA contribution expected from each new build class at maturity. The trajectory of the business will look far different in 2028 versus what we see today as we ramp up our NTI program. Outside of fuel margin expectations, we have shown we can manage the puts and takes of our business and honestly believe there's more upside than downside on the merchandise assumptions given the reset baseline.

The range of outcomes is and always will be primarily a function of the level of fuel margins realized. Our investment thesis as the largest single buyer of our shares every year is that prices, margins and the underlying drivers lead to a bumpy path towards a higher normalized level. And with a highly disciplined fifty-fifty capital allocation strategy coupled with a conservative balance sheet, we are well positioned to continue our track record of TSR growth. So with that, we will open up the call to questions.

And your first question comes from the line of Anthony Bonadio with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Yes. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking our question. I just wanted to ask about gallons for starters. Can you just talk about why trends seemingly worsened throughout the quarter and how your market share trended over that period?

And then if it's an industry issue, I guess, we didn't see more retail margin growth to offset that given those poor volumes would translate to higher breakeven?

Yes. So the first thing, the trend in the quarter is partly masked by the AprilMay update, which had a different same store base that we had been for the full quarter. And so where June trended around 4% down leading to the quarter where it ended up. So there was some deceleration, but not as significant as it showed based on the April numbers with that different base. In terms of where margins ended up, we see our margins not only improve, but they improved at lower credit card fees and by being at least $00 per gallon more aggressive than we were in the past year's quarter.

So I would say with that, industry margins were up in a low price environment. We typically put a little bit more on the street to hold volume and continue to drive traffic, stay top of mind with the consumer. And that's our view that when prices achieve a more normal level versus this lower level, we're able to claw some of that back.

Anthony, quickly to add, we did outpace Opus volumes in each of our markets that we look at for the full quarter. And while June did decelerate for us, it also decelerated for Opus. And as we mentioned a couple of times on the call, July volumes have returned back to 100% of last year.

Okay. And then just on guidance, I guess, I know you mentioned gallons sort of running below inside at the low end, but still in the range. And then you've got OpEx, SG and A running below. I guess, like, net of all that, it sounds like you're more or less reiterating EBITDA, I guess. Is that right?

Well and we don't we don't give a EBITDA guidance because we don't give a fuel margin guidance. But, yeah, as you go through the puts and and and takes, there's a lot of offsets there. So we're on the lower end of merch. We're making up for that by being at or below the better end of OpEx and G and A. And as you said, volume slightly at or slightly below the low end.

So a lot of puts and takes there, if you will.

Your next question comes from the line of Piranhas Sharma with Stephens. Please go ahead.

Hi. Appreciate the question here. Just wanted to get a sense of the store build. Looks like first half, you know, it it seemed like we were going to be a bit behind pace. And I know you've talked about getting a more even build throughout the year.

But but I think you mentioned, you know, still on pace for, I believe, 40. And the you know, I was gonna ask what what gives you confidence in hitting this number, but it sounds like you already have a lot of wheels in motion, a lot in the pipeline already. So just wanted to ask you what's changed in your kind of store build program relative to prior years, just given your confidence talking about the next twelve months and going forward?

Well, some of it's the bottlenecks. At some point, if you have so many stores in the queue that have a bottleneck, they're released. And so I think that's a big part, whether it was permitting your tanks or some supply chain issues. We continue to build up the pipeline. And then I think as we've talked about on the last calls, there's a few things where we've taken a different view of risk and cost to make sure that things don't get delayed that are within our control.

So I think when you look at the number of stores under construction, the numbers of stores we expect to see under construction and then the pipeline beyond that for '26 and '27, that's what gives us, you know, the confidence. There's nothing like having the shovel already in the ground to know that you're gonna get that store built and whether we said before, we weren't gonna get to 50 openings this year. We'd have well more than 50 starts. And I believe when you add what we do in January to what we close the year at, we're pretty dang close to that 50 number.

Just to add a little bit, I do want to give some credit to our store development team. It's really gone aggressively looking for great sites. And our pipeline total pipeline now is over two fifty stores. As Andrew mentioned, in the rolling next four quarters, we expect to open 50 stores. And the performance we're seeing is outstanding.

As we mentioned on the call, since 2021, each class has outperformed their expectations outperformed the pro form a. So we continue to see really good results from the stores that are open, and now we're building the pipeline to open more.

And I would echo that too. And I think it's tougher when you come from a lower base to generate that kind of inertia and momentum. But now that we are getting that and filling the funnel, with greater numbers of projects in the queue, I think it will allow us to have some momentum to continue that type of build program, in the years to follow this year and next.

Great. Great. Appreciate the the color there. And I guess for the follow-up, you know, just wanted to to get a sense of the the, you know, overall demand environment and then also the degree of cost flex and like the optionality you have in the back half of the year to offset markets. We I'm only saying this because we do see several weeks of gasoline demand from the Department of Energy down year over year. You did mention that you outperformed Opus data in several of your markets. But just given the lower demand environment, just wondering if you could help us understand with a little bit more granularity what kind of optionality you have in your ability to flex your costs essentially in the back half?

As it relates to demand, look, we've said it for years in a lower price environment there's some consumer on the margin who's not as price sensitive. If you find yourself in a low price environment where unemployment goes up, inflation continues unabated and you start seeing various corporate changes, etcetera, that changes the dynamic. So it's really all about the price sensitivity of consumers and that consumer on the margin. That's why we talk about putting an extra penny on the street. That's why we talk about the benefits of Murphy Drive Rewards and QuickChek Rewards as tools we have now that we didn't have when prices were low in 2015, 2016 and 2017.

And so at some point when you invest in a company that you see fuel margins being the ultimate driver of value and you see some ebbs and flows, this is one of those trough periods where volumes from a demand side are a little bit tighter, right? And we're going to have to be more aggressive from a margin standpoint winning customer. I think whether it's remote work, whether it's the battery electric vehicle percent of sales changing, as the car ownership, CapEx standards, etcetera, changing, We're actually bullish on the North American fuel outlook in 2030 and beyond as a lot of changes have taken place. As it relates to cost and optionality, I think the current quarter and first half of the year is a great example of that. We've streamlined over time.

If we see some lower demand, we can optimize even store hours if we have to with our unattended overnight fuel. If you see applicants more than doubling versus the same time a year ago and you see softness in the labor market, you can be thoughtful on your labor rates, especially around new employees, which was a key benefit for us in the period. Loss prevention and maintenance were two other categories where we demonstrated lower costs. So there are things that you can do because of the environment. There's levers you can pull, but you never want to pull back too hard on things like maintenance because those things catch up with you in the long run.

You don't want to pull back on value. As we mentioned, QuickChek had three straight quarters of food and beverage growth, which is unlike a lot of the big QSRs who pull those levers and give up a value proposition. So we're keen and well positioned to weather a cycle of lower demand, lower prices, managing it for the long run because we know in the long run our everyday low price value model is going to be a winning model with consumers. And we've got a balance sheet, capital allocation strategy that allows us to continue to build stores in more difficult times so that when they're up and running and the cycle shifts, you're taking full advantage of that. So we don't get too wound up about any one year demand picture. We're more bullish about the long term demand.

And, Flor, I'm just adding particularly about the cost side of the business, we do have multiple activities underway to improve the productivity of our store. Some of those are business led, some are initiative led. Benefits are showing up. As you saw, we're controlling OpEx to the low end of our guided range and that's despite opening those new stores which incur full expenses day one while the revenue ramps over time. So this quarter we did see the improvement on several fronts maintenance, labor, loss prevention as Andrew mentioned And we expect to continue to be able to drive value from all of those efforts.

And we know that look despite whatever is happening on the demand front, we know that over time ensuring that our stores are well supplied, they're in stock, they're clean, our equipment's working, our staff is friendly and helpful. Those are all the ingredients and the recipe that make a successful store and allow us to be able to attract and retain the customers. So that is what we're focused on. Our operating model is one of the lowest costs in the industry, and we will continue to squeeze additional costs from our business to enable that EDLP strategy, as Andrew said, which is so important to our customer who needs that.

Your next question comes from the line of Bonnie Herzog with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

All right. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I had a question on merchandise contribution. You did just talk down your guidance this year, but it does still imply a healthy acceleration in the back half.

So just curious to hear from you what gives you the comfort that this new guidance is achievable despite what remains a pretty challenging operating and macro environment. And then just curious to hear any specific initiatives you have in place to drive faster growth. And, you know, is your merch contribution guidance predicated on continued improvement at QuickChek? Thank you.

Great. So on the merch side, you know, I think Gallagher and I both mentioned that if you take out cigarettes and lottery, the Murphy branded stores are up 8.9. I mean, that's that's incredible growth in the context of the environment you described, Bonnie. I mean, we're seeing chocolate, candy price increases. We continue to see packaged beverage increases.

We've just taken a different approach working with the manufacturers around value, helping them drive their baseload volume. And those are two categories, Packaged Beverage and Candy, where we showed significant upside in the quarter. Other nicotine continues to do very, very well. And where we had tobacco weakness on cigarettes in the first half because of the promotional cycle, the promotions were running in the second half and we've already started give us confidence around that front. Other initiatives that we have as it relates to getting more customer reach, we had a significant increase in new enrollments for Murphy Drive Rewards.

And so we've got some initiatives underway to further drive that enrollment. And we see those members' baskets and frequency and contribution to the business greater than participants and nonmembers. So that's one of the initiatives. And we continue to have innovation on the QuickChek side in terms of our sandwiches, our more value offer, as well as the continued success of our premium offers there. So I would say there's just a lot of things going on.

Part And of one thing that's frustrating on the QuickChek side is we're driving the sales. We continue to see some headwinds around food cost and the like. And we believe when those abate, it'll be a lot easier to demonstrate kind of higher margin contribution because we won't have to go back and win back the customer because we priced and gave them value during this period so we didn't lose them. And, you know, you follow some of the other QSRs who are really, you know, struggling to figure out their price per check increases that ran off so many customers. I don't if others have anything they wanna add on initiatives.

That was really helpful. I appreciate that color. Maybe just a quick follow-up because you touched on it is nicotine, and you you highlighted some of the pressures was promotion related in the first half, and it sounds like you just mentioned you have some sense of what it's going to look like in the second half. But should I understand that to mean that you feel better about the contribution from nicotine maybe being a little again stronger in the second half versus the first half? And then just wanted to hear if you're seeing any improvements with this on that business from the so called stepped up efforts to crack down on illicit e cigs?

Or is that still kind of a headwind for you as well? Thank you.

Yeah. No, we're definitely more bullish on second half than first half. First half, we were just comping against some really significant promotional activity last year. The, we also had a strong, you know, q two comp last year as well. I'm sure you listened to, you know, doctor Mark Marquet a couple of days ago when he was interviewed, in the morning.

He said something big is coming as it relates to illicit vapor and synthetic kratom. I don't know what that something big is. I know our industry partners have been doing a frontal all out campaign with the FDA. I was encouraged by his discussion around risk and the continuum of risk and not going to attack these broad categories broadly, but really focus on the area where there's the greatest risk. So that's a very positive sentiment coming out of the FDA that we haven't heard in a very long time.

Fair point. We will see. So thank you. I'll pass it on.

Your next question comes from the line of Bobby Griffin with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Hey, everybody. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess, Andrew, first, I want to circle back on the guidance moving parts that you guys discussed, understanding that you guys don't guide for a fuel margin. But if if you were to take the range that you gave us at first and just assume the business ends up in that fuel margin range for the year, would you still generate the level of EBITDA that that range implied? And, what I'm trying to get at is is just to understand if the the OpEx offsets are fully offsetting the, you know, the merchandise pressure we're seeing in the gallons.

Just trying to understand that range and the sensitivity there.

Yes. So if you add all of that up and you have our original fuel margin range, you're going to be below that EBITDA number that was put out there, and largely that's driven by q one, right, and the impact that we had there. So OpEx is more than making up for challenges on the merch side as we referenced on tobacco, SG and A is having a significant impact as well. So it's really going to be end of the year predicated on where we land with the fuel margin in the second half. But if you just adjust for Q1 and kind of the trajectory we're on on the volume side in this low price environment, that is going to have a bigger impact than the offsetting effects that OpEx and G and A have on the merch side.

Understood. That's helpful. And then, Gallagher

And by the way, just one other point, with Q1 PS and W being below that's kind of a we're still seeing a very long loose environment with a lot of high refinery utilization and a lot of exports.

Yes. Good point. Nice to see that bounce back this quarter versus the 1Q. I guess my second question is more near term. Just want to make sure I understand the comments.

July back to 100%. I believe that is on a APSM basis Correct? And I don't think you gave any comments on just July retail margins as we typically talk about, but anything you can share with us there?

No. It's on an APSM basis and, you know, the what's adjustments and these different calculations you do only at the end of the month, it's just premature to give a fuel margin number for July. If we've been doing this call a week from today, you know, we'd have more confidence in that number.

We would expect that directionally, though, it'll be somewhere in the high twenties.

Thank you. That's helpful. And I guess just lastly for me, this really impressive OpEx performance across the p and l here. Just curious if you can unpack that a little further. Is that, you know, some timing aspects, or is that more of the the work, Mindy, you, the team, everybody's been doing on productivity that we've talked about on these lower quartile stores starting to actually now move into harvest stage and flow through?

As I said earlier, you know, we are seeing the benefits show up in the results to both business led and initiative led because we're really trying to tackle on all fronts our store productivity. So, yes, I think you're seeing the fruits of those efforts come to bear, and I think that there's more than we can do. We continue to identify larger opportunities and maintenance from both incident response as well as vendor accountability, also opportunities and team effectiveness. Now keep in mind that these benefits are gonna show up in multiple ways. Some of them are gonna be very difficult to attribute.

What I mean by that is on some levels, we're gonna have cost savings through things like doing self maintenance at our stores versus calling in a technician. Other things are going to be more cost avoidance. So, for example, by keeping fuel dispensers better maintained, that will result in fewer breakdowns. And then also things like customer loss avoidance. You know, using fuel as an example, if we have a dispenser down at one of our stations, does that mean customers drive away or do they use one of the seven others that are actually working?

Probably, you're not going to lose those customers initially, but eventually if that is a chronic problem, then you are going to have certain customers who are going to look at the long lines and go somewhere else. So that's why we know that over time, we're working on the right things. It may be hard to attribute that as a financial impact, you know, quarter to quarter, but we know that that is the recipe for success in our stores. And, yes, I think you are starting to see the green shoots really resulting in us being able to keep our OpEx under control and within the lower part of our guided range.

Bobby, I was just going say a couple of things. The loss prevention opportunities has been something we have been working on for quite a while and just taking a targeted more analytical approach to how we address that. And labor rate is a big thing. So QC with a better demand forecasting model, we shifted from full time to part time labor work where it makes more sense with the enhanced labor model doing the same thing at Murphy enhancing its labor model. But in a environment where your applicant flow is, you know, more than double what it was, you do have the opportunity to be thoughtful about starting rates, rate increases, etcetera, as you maintain the competitiveness of your business, but stay in the sweet spot of where you want to be price wise in the market.

One more quick build, Bobby, just on your on your point.

As as in a challenging demand environment like this, there's a couple of things you do while you try to spur demand. One, and Mindy's team has done a great job in operations of you manage cost. Right? We're doing that in our stores, doing it in the home office, and those are sustainable as as she talked through. We're not expecting this to be a onetime effort.

We're continuing to manage cost. The second is you optimize cash, and we're spending our cash on the things that will pay off in very long term such as the new stores and the share repurchase. But we're expecting the demand environment to come back, but we will have a lower cost structure when it does.

Thank you, guys. I appreciate the time and best of luck in the second half.

Your next question comes from the line of Jacob Aiken Phillips with Melius Research. Please go ahead.

Hey. Hey. Good morning. So first, I wanted to talk a bit more Last quarter, there's a lot of focus on it.

You went through, like, the temporal, the core structural factors, etcetera. So you already just spoke about retail margins. I'm just curious if you could speak about, like, why the flip in February and what we can expect for the rest of the year and going forward.

I can take that one. When we look at the first quarter results, PS and W of around 1.73, I think it was. And a quarter that was really characterized by very low volatility, a much longer supply environment than this quarter, although this quarter is still very long and loose. It was worse actually in the first quarter. And then of course, we had all the storms with hundreds of stores down so that impacted our demand profile.

So when we look at this quarter and why the difference, still a pretty well supplied market. Yes, there were higher rent values but there was also correspondingly offset result in our transfer to retail. Price is 10% lower on absolute levels. And so part of the difference between the impact this quarter versus last year, last quarter is just the amount of length in the supply market and also the direction and movement of pricing, which impact what we call our noncontrollable. So it's the timing of pricing and inventory variances as well as the length of supply in the market was a little bit tighter this quarter versus last.

Thank you. And then so on share repurchases or, I guess, capital allocation, it seems like you may have, like, levered up a little bit or took out some debt to do that level of repurchase. I understand the valuation dynamic, but can you walk through how you're, like, balancing leverage tolerance versus growth and capital returns given, like, the softer fuel volumes?

Yeah. So we don't borrow money for any one particular purpose. We have a fifty-fifty capital allocation strategy. So you could have asked the question differently and said it seemed like you levered up to get all those stores in the pipeline. So we have a long term commitment to that capital allocation strategy.

So our financial framework is geared to that. So for every dollar we borrow, 50% is for growth, 50% is for shareholder distribution. So don't think about leveraging up to buy shares. It's just whatever leverage we need to maintain that fifty-fifty. And we said we'd probably be hitting the balance sheet a little bit in 'twenty five and 'twenty six And in 'twenty seven, 'twenty eight, 'twenty nine and beyond, your excess cash flow is going to be going in the opposite direction.

Jacob, just to reiterate, we're very purposeful with our balance sheet. We took on some additional financing early in Q2 to make sure we had the flexibility to run our strategy for the next three plus years. So that strategy, as Andrew mentioned, is investing in new stores, continuing to repurchases. We've said we're comfortable leverage around 2.5 or below. We're going to be right at two point zero Q2 right now.

So we're very comfortable with our balance sheet and gives us a lot of flexibility as we go forward.

Your next question comes from the line of Brad Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to follow-up a bit on the fuel volume trends, and was just wondering if you could just touch on the competitive landscape. Curious if you feel like you're seeing anything different there. And then as you look at sort of the locations of stores, wondering if any difference geographically or, perhaps those more collated co located with Walmart versus those not so where you might be seeing any differences? Thanks.

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