• Home
  • Latest
  • Fortune 500
  • Finance
  • Tech
  • Leadership
  • Lifestyle
  • Rankings
  • Multimedia

Trendingnow

1

Anne Hathaway says she was spammed with ChatGPT-written thank you notes after hiring for a recent role: ‘Nobody on that list gets that job’

2

The affordability crisis is so bad that, for the first time ever, both mom and dad are working full-time in most American families

3

Current price of oil as of June 18, 2026

1

Anne Hathaway says she was spammed with ChatGPT-written thank you notes after hiring for a recent role: ‘Nobody on that list gets that job’

2

The affordability crisis is so bad that, for the first time ever, both mom and dad are working full-time in most American families

3

Current price of oil as of June 18, 2026
SuccessFortune 500: Titans and Disruptors of Industry

‘Work-life balance is a lie’: TIAA’s CEO broke down at a bus terminal after a long work day, then found a better way to think about it

Emma Burleigh
By
Emma Burleigh
Emma Burleigh
Reporter, Success
Down Arrow Button Icon
Emma Burleigh
By
Emma Burleigh
Emma Burleigh
Reporter, Success
Down Arrow Button Icon
June 19, 2026, 5:33 AM ET
TIAA President and CEO Thasunda Brown Duckett on Fortune’s 'Titans and Disruptors of Industry' podcast.
TIAA President and CEO Thasunda Brown Duckett now looks at her life as a “diversified portfolio” and says it’s set her up for success.Fortune's Titans and Disruptors of Industry podcast
Add Fortune on Google for similar content.

Many professionals struggle with chasing work-life balance—TIAA President and CEO Thasunda Brown Duckett was one of them, until a breakdown in a bus terminal over her intense schedule gave her an epiphany.

Recommended Video

“Work-life balance is a lie. It never reconciles…so get rid of that,” Duckett recalled the wakeup moment in Fortune’s Titans and Disruptors of Industry podcast with Editor-in-Chief Alyson Shontell.

Her mindset shift came one night during her nearly nine-year tenure at JPMorgan Chase, where she rose to become CEO of Chase Consumer Banking. Her intense workdays were sandwiched between long commutes to New York City from New Jersey, leaving little time for family outside her office life. 

Duckett was waiting for the last bus of the day at Port Authority, watching as stragglers headed to the casino and the janitor cleaned up for the night, when the pressure hit a breaking point. 

In tears, she called her husband to vent about never seeing her kids before or after work. And her husband—a stay-at-home father, marine, and engineer—delivered a perspective-shifting response: “then quit.” 

He reasoned with her that if her current situation wasn’t working for her, then it wouldn’t work for the family either. And thanks to his bluntness, something clicked. 

“It was in that moment that something had to change, and it was my mindset,” the TIAA leader said. “And so this work-life balance, I was catching an L [loss]. I was feeling like I was failing my husband, I was failing my children, I was failing my mom, my dad, my brothers, everyone. I was just not winning, and I needed a win.”

That realization has impacted how she’s moved throughout her career since. After letting go of the fight for work-life balance, her success only continued to grow; in 2021 she was tapped to be the CEO of a Fortune 100 company, retirement planning giant TIAA.

Duckett’s secret to managing all responsibilities: A ‘diversified portfolio’ mindset

Leaders of billion-dollar businesses each have their own philosophies around work-life balance, and the CEO of the financial services giant is no different. Brown Duckett came up with her own strategy: rather than striving to give every area of her life equal attention, she now thinks of her time and energy like investments that must be allocated intentionally.

“This diversified portfolio shift—because I am in finance—changed everything,” Duckett said on the Fortune podcast. “If you live your life like a diversified portfolio, you tell yourself the truth. You only have 100%, you do not have 110%. The other truth is that you allocate to the things that define who you are.”

Duckett makes sure to allocate energy to the relationships and responsibilities that matter most. 

As a philanthropist, mother, sister, aunt, wife, and executive, she is constantly pulled in different directions. Now, she recognizes that splitting up her time also means no one gets to have all of her. 

The 52-year-old leader says even her children don’t receive 100%—realistically, they can only get 30% after subtracting sleep, work, and school from their schedules. And instead of feeling guilty about not being able to invest more time with them, Duckett accepts her limitations and says it even allows her to show up more intentionally. 

“By recognizing that they only have 30%, I’m a more present mother by living my life like a diversified portfolio, just like market volatility,” Duckett continued. “Life will life, and you will have life volatility.”

Living by that mindset has also made her a better daughter and sister, the TIAA chief said. And that’s because she’s no longer burdened by the anxiety of having to give 100% to everyone all the time. Everything that matters to her is still in her portfolio—just now, she allows her time and attention to sway in response to market or life conditions. 

“I give myself a ton of grace,” Duckett said. “If you live your life like a diversified portfolio instead of trying to reconcile work and life, you will outperform this thing called life.”

The Fortune 500 Innovation Forum will convene Fortune 500 executives, U.S. policy officials, top founders, and thought leaders to help define what’s next for the American economy, Nov. 16-17 in Detroit. Apply here.
About the Author
Emma Burleigh
By Emma BurleighReporter, Success

Emma Burleigh is a reporter at Fortune, covering success, careers, entrepreneurship, and personal finance. Before joining the Success desk, she co-authored Fortune’s CHRO Daily newsletter, extensively covering the workplace and the future of jobs. Emma has also written for publications including the Observer and The China Project, publishing long-form stories on culture, entertainment, and geopolitics. She has a joint-master’s degree from New York University in Global Journalism and East Asian Studies.

See full bioRight Arrow Button Icon
Add Fortune on Google for similar content.

Latest in Success

Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025

Most Popular

Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Fortune Secondary Logo
Rankings
  • 100 Best Companies
  • Fortune 500
  • Global 500
  • Fortune 500 Europe
  • Most Powerful Women
  • World's Most Admired Companies
  • See All Rankings
  • Lists Calendar
Sections
  • Finance
  • Fortune Crypto
  • Features
  • Leadership
  • Health
  • Commentary
  • Success
  • Retail
  • Mpw
  • Tech
  • Lifestyle
  • CEO Initiative
  • Asia
  • Politics
  • Conferences
  • Europe
  • Newsletters
  • Personal Finance
  • Environment
  • Magazine
  • Education
Customer Support
  • Frequently Asked Questions
  • Customer Service Portal
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms Of Use
  • Single Issues For Purchase
  • International Print
Commercial Services
  • Advertising
  • Fortune Brand Studio
  • Fortune Analytics
  • Fortune Conferences
  • Business Development
  • Group Subscriptions
About Us
  • About Us
  • Press Center
  • Work At Fortune
  • Terms And Conditions
  • Site Map
  • About Us
  • Press Center
  • Work At Fortune
  • Terms And Conditions
  • Site Map
  • Facebook icon
  • Twitter icon
  • LinkedIn icon
  • Instagram icon
  • Pinterest icon

Latest in Success

TIAA President and CEO Thasunda Brown Duckett on Fortune’s 'Titans and Disruptors of Industry' podcast.
SuccessFortune 500: Titans and Disruptors of Industry
‘Work-life balance is a lie’: TIAA’s CEO broke down at a bus terminal after a long work day, then found a better way to think about it
By Emma BurleighJune 19, 2026
3 hours ago
Arianna Huffington doesn’t believe in work-life balance but swears by one boundary to switch off from work—and Ralph Lauren’s CHRO has adopted it too
SuccessDay in the Life of a CEO
Arianna Huffington doesn’t believe in work-life balance but swears by one boundary to switch off from work—and Ralph Lauren’s CHRO has adopted it too
By Orianna Rosa RoyleJune 19, 2026
5 hours ago
LaShonda Anderson-Williams, chief customer and commercial officer at Salesforce, speaking at Fortune Brainstorm Tech 2026 in Aspen, Colorado. (Photo: Stuart Isett/Fortune)
Future of WorkBrainstorm Tech
How to run a company when the AI agents vastly outnumber the humans
By Alexei OreskovicJune 18, 2026
16 hours ago
Entry-level work didn’t disappear, PwC finds with ‘seniorization.’ It just morphed into something young workers can’t get
Future of Workentry level
Entry-level work didn’t disappear, PwC finds with ‘seniorization.’ It just morphed into something young workers can’t get
By Nick LichtenbergJune 18, 2026
19 hours ago
Dario Amodei
SuccessView from the C-Suite
Dario Amodei has only 1 direct report, his chief of staff—and everyone else reports to his sister: ‘It’s incredibly freeing’
By Preston ForeJune 18, 2026
21 hours ago
teens
EconomyJobs
Teen summer employment is headed for its worst year since 1948
By Matt Sedensky and The Associated PressJune 18, 2026
23 hours ago

Most Popular

Anne Hathaway says she was spammed with ChatGPT-written thank you notes after hiring for a recent role: ‘Nobody on that list gets that job’
Success
Anne Hathaway says she was spammed with ChatGPT-written thank you notes after hiring for a recent role: ‘Nobody on that list gets that job’
By Orianna Rosa RoyleJune 18, 2026
1 day ago
The affordability crisis is so bad that, for the first time ever, both mom and dad are working full-time in most American families
Economy
The affordability crisis is so bad that, for the first time ever, both mom and dad are working full-time in most American families
By Jacqueline MunisJune 17, 2026
2 days ago
Current price of oil as of June 18, 2026
Personal Finance
Current price of oil as of June 18, 2026
By Joseph HostetlerJune 18, 2026
23 hours ago
Hundreds of Stanford students walked out of their grad ceremony to protest Google CEO’s commencement speech. It wasn’t all about AI
Big Tech
Hundreds of Stanford students walked out of their grad ceremony to protest Google CEO’s commencement speech. It wasn’t all about AI
By Tristan BoveJune 15, 2026
4 days ago
Microsoft boss Steve Ballmer publicly dismissed Chrome as a 'rounding error'—but Google’s CEO says he used the jab as fuel to win the browser-wars
Success
Microsoft boss Steve Ballmer publicly dismissed Chrome as a 'rounding error'—but Google’s CEO says he used the jab as fuel to win the browser-wars
By Preston ForeJune 17, 2026
2 days ago
'Work hard, stay loyal, and the system will reward you': the Boomer credo is a Gen X betrayal and a Millennial pipe dream
Success
'Work hard, stay loyal, and the system will reward you': the Boomer credo is a Gen X betrayal and a Millennial pipe dream
By Nick LichtenbergJune 16, 2026
3 days ago

© 2026 Fortune Media IP Limited. All Rights Reserved. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy | CA Notice at Collection and Privacy Notice | Do Not Sell/Share My Personal Information
FORTUNE is a trademark of Fortune Media IP Limited, registered in the U.S. and other countries. FORTUNE may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Offers may be subject to change without notice.