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Even a Recession Can’t Stop the Talent Wars

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December 12, 2018, 4:55 PM ET
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014 Wednesday, December 12th, 2018 Fortune MPW Next Gen 2018 December 11th, 2018 Laguna Niguel, CA 7:50 AM MPW PROGRAM BREAKFAST WORKSHOPS WINNING THE TALENT WAR Recruiting and retaining the best and brightest has never been more challenging—or more important. Three experts share their strategies. Ghazal Asif, Vice President, Worldwide Channels, AppDynamics Maryanne Caughey, Head of Talent, Gusto Kathryn Minshew, Founder and CEO, The Muse Taylor Rose, Head of Talent, Bird Moderator: Claire Zillman, Fortune Photograph by Stuart Isett/FortuneStuart Isett/Fortune
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The war for talent is fiercer than ever—but even an economic slowdown predicted in the next few years won’t give employers back all the power.

“Even if there is an economic adjustment or a recession, I think a lot of the overall changes in the balance of power between employees and employers are here to stay,” says Kathryn Minshew, founder and CEO of The Muse.

Minshew, who was referring to employee expectations of greater convenience, among other changes in the employee-employer relationship, spoke at Fortune‘s Most Powerful Women Next Gen Summit in Laguna Niguel, Calif., on Wednesday, alongside Ghazal Asif, vice president of worldwide channels at AppDynamics; Maryanne Caughey, head of talent at Gusto; and moderator Claire Zillman of Fortune.

“It’s an evolution of what talent means,” Minshew says. “There was a sense that their job was to get butts in seats cheap and fast. That language is not common anymore. Talent is much more likely to be reporting to the CEO. It’s a much more strategic function.”

At Gusto, employees compete to provide the most successful referrals in a competition called “Gusto’s Got Talent”—and the company sees higher retention at its Denver offices than in San Francisco. At AppDynamics, the former startup faces a challenge recruiting the kind of entrepreneurial talent that flocked to the company in its early days but has been more reluctant to join the organization after its acquisition by Cisco.

“The needs of businesses are changing faster than the skills and experience of the workforce,” Asif says.

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